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                        THE ROLE OF EARTH


    Dated Nov 1952 in R&D Volumes and 30 Oct 52 on old reels.
     5210C30A SOP8A (SOP lectures number 8A).
                     62 min and 10 sec long.

A thetan can go over and take possession of the body of – let’s say
we want to influence the priemier of Buckwupistan. So we boot this
thetan out and make this thetan go over and knock out the thetan in the
wife of the priemier of Buckwupistan.

And then we are holding the body of the person that we send over there
and they are still connected and in communication with this body. At
which moment … (sound of somebody entering the room) Pretty wild stuff
to walk into suddenly … (laughter).

So we simply monitor, now all of a sudden we find we are able to
monitor the wife of the priemier of Buckwupistan with great ease. And we
get her into a tremendous affair with a court chamberlain you see. And
we just get things swirled up like a fire drill. And the next thing you
know, he’s dispossessed. They say his rents up on Buckwupistan or
something of this sort because of scandal, because of this, because of
that. Its a very neat political manuver.

And it is so neat that there is probably not a member of the class
present who is along the category of (case level) IV or V who hasn’t
done it. And that is the reason why a lot of Vs and VIs are completely
unwilling to get out of their heads. Because its an overt act to send
somebody out of his head. And you’ve sent people out of their heads over
to some vast distance. And having sent these people over, they run into
a body or something which is then injured. Or something happens to their
body right where you are. And you caused a complete foul up and
extinction of a being.

And after that, when somebody comes along and tells you to get out of
your head, you’ll find a V is trying despritely to stay in his head
because he furiously objects to being sent around here, there, and
various points in the universe, and because there is a DED (overt act)
of having sent people out of their heads, and so on. So you work this
stuff back and forth and you get some of the most interesting stuff.
This is all early stuff by the way.

Female voice (has a bit of an accent): But Ron. You see what happened
was – when he eventually got into communication now in present time.
(garbled sentence) He developed a round kind of pressure within his
head. There were 4 beings coming at him. And I sprung him there and then
and he had enough stability outside to energize these capsules and send
them back. But I also questioned him about a body in pawn, but there was
nothing on the E-meter.

Ron: It probably didn’t register too well on him.

I want to call your attention to something of considerable interest to
you. It would be terribly interesting, you see, if all of this were just
a fairy tale on “what is the state of the real universe!” But you’re
engaged with certain definite problems – and these problems have to deal
with three certainties. And I’d hetter tell you something about these
three certainties.

But before I do that, there is a certainty called the MEST universe.
Unless you can discover and unless you use a certainty on the MEST
universe – what is actually the series of agreements which we call the
MEST universe? – unless you are willing to use this data for what it is,
you’ll find yourself and your preclear in a state of delusion.

In other words, you are saying something that is the MEST universe
isn’t the MEST universe. And that, of course, is a method of getting
everything upside down, but royally!

If you went around, for instance, telling everybody that there were no
lorries going down Holland Park Avenue, and being quite upset and so on
because no lorries were going down Holland Park Avenue – and there they
go down Holland Park Avenue – why, you could do this silly trick of
going out and saying, “Well, in view of the fact there are no lorries go
down this avenue, it doesn’t matter if I step under these big red
things,” and so on.

Just as idiotic as that is when you Set some kind of a planned, set-up
condition of affairs. You examine this condition of affairs very
carefully; you find out that it agrees to this extent as MEST universe.
That is, the DEFINITION of MEST universe is, of course, the common
denominator of agreement. That is the MEST universe. It’s a series of
agreements. And when you’re examining the MEST universe, you’re
examining something solid. Its some agreement that you agreed on, that
other people agreed with you on, and so on. Now, what did you agree on?
And that is the MEST universe.

Now, you take preclear after preclear after preclear after preclear.
You put them on E-Meters, you try to run them, you try to do this, you
try to do that, straight on through, and you’ll find in each and every
case you’re finding the phenomenon of entities, bodies in pawn,
communications, spaceships, other planets, locations, beingness in other
states and all of this; and you’ll find this to be a consistent
condition. You have fulfilled this definition of the MEST universe. It’s
evidently agreed upon. And it’s agreed upon because – it’s actually
true. You couldn’t go out and get somebody off the street and put an E-
Meter in their hands and start asking them questions on this without
getting the same response as you’d get from your classmates on it. They
would know nothing about this.

I took a little girl one night during a demonstration and put her on
the E-Meter and this little kid – I started to question her, and I was
going to ask her about something just to show the class what the series
of questions would be about current life. And the next thing you knew,
this little kid was shaking in such a degree that the chair legs were
rattling against the floor. And she says, “You mustn’t ask me any
questions. You mustn’t ask me any questions. You mustn’t, you mustn’t,
you mustn’t.” She was going all to pieces on the thing.

And I said, “Well, of course, it’s perfectly all right for me to ask
you questions,” so on. “Where are you!”

And she said, “I’m sitting before a big panel.” And she says, “It’s –
it’s – I didn’t USED to sit there, I’m sitting there right now. That’s
me. I sit in front of this panel. This is my job! This is my job. I’m
not supposed to tell you what my job is, but there’s this panel,” and so
forth.

I said, “It’s a communicator switchboard?”

“NO-O-O!” And she just starts going on.

I said, “Well, you wouldn’t mind telling me the codes that go across
the panel” and she passed right straight on out. Interesting, isn’t it!

She’d never heard of bodies in pawn or other governments or invader
forces or anything of the sort. So I snapped her around and carried on
with the rest of the questioning, and was simply able to do so because I
happen to know – this is a very funny thing to say, but I happen to know
her commanding officer! And gave her – silly, isn’t it! – and gave her
the messages which had gone across herqanel an hour before, at which
moment she immediately quieted down.

And she says, “Well, I’II probably be taken all to pieces in the
morning.”

And so I said, “No, you will not be.” And she wasn’t. But she was a
communicator who was running a communications switchboard.

Now, another time, just to give you a consistency on this, another
time in front of a class much as this one, I picked up a girl, put the
electrodes (terminals) in her hand, and started to ask her about this
and that, and we find her sitting in front of a communication
switchboard. Girl knows nothing about electronics. If you told her to
describe to you how to answer a telephone, she would probably bog on it
a bit, and yet she is a communicator. She’s a communicator in a system
known as the space stations.

The space stations exist out here in the solar system. They use the
asteroids. It’s a very peculiar system. This solar system has a planet
which is broken up, the asteroid belt. It gives a low-gravity platform
for takeoff and so on, and that broken planet is of considerable
interest as a space station, that is to say a galactic jump.

Now, there aren’t any planets up at this end of the galaxy which form
a good galactic entering spot for incoming transport and other ships.
But this beautiful, broken-up planet here with a light-gravity sun and
so on, makes a very ideal spot.

And as a result, this area of the solar system got into prominence. It
got into a little bit of prominence, and it’s slightly a bone of
contention.

And there was – the Fourth Invader Force was here. The Fifth Invader
Force came in to use this area, and the name of this solar system is
Space Station 33. They started to use this area without suspecting that
the Fourth Invader Force had been there for God knows how many skillion
years, had been sitting down, and they have their installations up on
Mars, and they have a tremendous, screened operation.

The Martian operation is a fascinating operation, simply because it
has gone into 100 percent holding force. And it does everything it does
with tremendous coversion. It’s sitting behind a defense screen of
enormous size, and nobody – it’s practically impossible to penetrate
that, except as a thetan. And if you penetrate it as a thetan, you go
through the Martian screen, and they got you!

Well, now, the point is that the Fifth Invader Force operated for some
little time here in this system without suspecting the existence of the
Fourth Invader Force. And all of a sudden they started to lose crews,
and they didn’t know where they were going. And they got a little more
upset about it and a little more upset about it and a little more upset
about it.

And a battalion was sent down here to Earth 8,200 years ago, the Third
Battalion. If you find somebody who is a member of the Third Battalion,
why, speak up. Because the whole battalion, its officers, staff and so
forth, was under the command of the expeditionary force commanding
officer for this – not for just this area.

All right. Now, this sounds awfully wild. It just sounds terrifically
incredible, but that’s just incredible in the frame of reference of
Earth. Actually, this isn’t very incredible.

So 8,200 years ago, they came down in the Himalayas, the upper
headlands, up about, oh, I’d say about seventy-two miles northwest of
Khyber Pass, and put a base in there, and still not believing that there
was anything like an invader force operating in this system, failed to
take any vaguest precautions with regard to their installations. They
put up no defenses; after all, what was here! Nothing but Homo Sapiens.
That was just nothing, no danger, no menace, and so on.

And they were in this installation just a very short time when all of
a sudden, with a terrific crash, the Fourth Invader Force, which was a
little more active then than it has become since, knocked out this whole
battalion (a battalion of that size is in the neighborhood of about
three thousand beings) and picked up all of its staff, all of its staff
officers and so forth, and took them through to Mars and then knocked
them back into this human race here. They’re still here. There are
saucer crews here; there’s all sorts of things on Earth here from the
Fifth Invader Force. Very interesting.

This is directly and violently in opposition to the Fourth Invader
Force. And the Fifth Invader Force, out of its own protection, took over
Venus – oh, relatively in modern times – took over Venus and tried to
stabilize the Venusian.

If you called a Fifth Invader, though, a Venusian, he would probably
shoot you out of hand, because it would be a horrible insult. They
merely monitor the government of Venus, and they leave Mars strictly
alone.

Now, this is really, roughly, a rundown of the quote “political”
situation in the solar system.

Now, that’s very interesting, because it gives you, as preclears,
bodies in pawn of the Fourth Invader Force. It gives you tremendous
volume of personnel that have been poured down here for various
nefarious purposes, all of them under some kind of a covert direction.
Typical game: every goal they’ve gotten, they have a reason why they
can’t reach the goal, see! I mean, typical game sort of an implant these
people are operating on. They’re relatively inefficient. But boy, can
they hold on to things. Do they accumulate MEST and that sort of thing.

You’ve got your big holding operations. And you’ve got running through
this a Fifth Invader Force operation which is strictly, really,
disinterested in Earth – not really interested in Earth at all, as such,
because Earth is a heavy gravity planet, and who the hell wants a heavy
gravity planet!

Earth would be much better off lying in chunks in an orbit around the
sun. But naturally, that’s a pretty rough assignment, blowing up
something this size and putting it around, so nobody would do that.

But completely aside from that fact, Earth has been used consistently
as a prison; and it is a prison, and it is heavily screened. There are
installations in Mongolia, there are installations in the Pyrenees here
on Earth, and there are installations down in the Mountains ot the Moon
in Africa which pick up, very often, people on death.

And the thetan just doesn’t know what’s going on. He’s in a state of
deep hypnosis, really, and the moment he finds himself in association
with a dead body, the thing keys and he reports to where he’s supposed
to go. And he’s changed and moved around here and there and comes back
down.

Really, from death back to assumption of a new body and so on, is
ordinarily a time period of about fifteen minutes, and he has three
engrams in those fifteen minutes: 1) The death, 2) The wipeout and
implant between lives, and 3) The assumption – knocking out the GE and
taking over a body at birth. Very interesting.

All right. You’ll run into these things with pcs. That’s the only
reason I’m talking to you about it, not to romance with you.

A body in pawn utilizes not the thetan but ridges. Here’s some of the
most fascinating things. They’ll take a thetan and they’ll build up
ridges, and these ridges will act like personalities, and because their
wavelength is known, they can be monitored.

So you’ll very often run into entities. And there are a certain number
of entities and they’re in a certain order and so on, and they act like
beings in a person, but they are not beings. And you want to know how to
get rid of an entity. A couple of auditors here have run into this
problem in the last week and that’s why I’m going over this ground with
you.

Actually, this is covered to a very marked degree in the course books,
and it’s covered in “What to Audit” , not perhaps with
the frankness that I’m covering it with you now, but it’s covered.

Now, how do you get rid of an entity? You simply find where that
entity is located geographically in the body. You do this with an E-
Meter. Your next step is to find out where the entity is stuck on the
time track. And you’ll find out that it’s some sort of an incident
having to do with a body in pawn, it’ll be a between-lives implant;
it’ll be something on this order.

It may be that you will find that the person during an operation has
suddenly conceived that he is dead, has reported back in. He obviously
was not dead, and what they did was lay onto one of his ridges – which
he took right along with him, of course – lay onto one of his ridges the
fact that he mustn’t know and he mustn’t tell. Very often, when he
appeared back in a body with the violence of pain of an accident or
something of this sort, he killed the body in pawn to which he was very
nebulously attached while he was here.

Body in pawn: something floating in fluid or under an electronic –
constant electronic bath. You’ll find these described. They’re lying on
a pallet or something of the sort; the body is completely motionless.
And at the foot of this will be something that looks like a window, and
it’s not a window.

Now, here’s a big joke for you. You can take a preclear and coax him
to knock off a body in pawn, make the body dive through one of those
quote “windows”, make him raise enough hubbub and hurrah so that he’ll
be gunned down by guards, or something of the sort. It’s really not much
of a shock because, you see, he’s not in that body. He’s just nebulously
monitored by that body, because somebody can walk in, stir up the body,
give the body a command, and he himself will perceive the command. This
is a relay system of ridges.

Now, if you get rid of one of those things, run out the point where
the ridge is stuck on the time track. You just run it out as an
incident.

You ask the preclear to move into that area of his body and push on
through the incident as though it happened to him. And he will tell you
in a moment or two, “But this didn’t happen to me, this is just lying
here”. Up to that time he thought it happened to him. It didn’t really.
What it was, was a facsimile laid down on one of his ridges. And you
will find that as many as five or more bodies in pawn are being held
here and there throughout the universe for one preclear.

All they do is take a – the phenomenon of ridge, you see, and they
throw a facsimile into play on that ridge, and the person can be
monitored.

Now, the most horrible of the entities is the stomach-area entity,
because it’s in conflict with the GE. This entity is quite often
responsible for nervous stomachs and so forth.

If you want to know something about coldblooded brutality and why
people here on Earth are so completely, horribly fixated on “let’s be
kind,” and “let’s get it organized one way or the other,” it is the
utter, brutal disregard for beingness which you find throughout the
systems. What you have here and consider humanitarian and so forth is a
very interestingly built-up system. There’s a cast system which is
exercised in other parts of the solar system which would appall the most
viciously minded duke who ever lived here on Earth. There’s slavery, and
what men are put to in that slavery, how men are treated and so forth.

Now, for instance, the body in pawn, which will have something to do
with this stomach entity, the stomach entity has become so terrified,
they will actually go along and just kick it or shove needles into it or
something, to make a pain shock come down and hit somebody here on
Earth.

They’re fed with forced, quite often fed with a sort of a – oh, a
paste of some sort, and it’s put in something that looks like a grease
gun, you see! You just stuff the nozzle of the grease gun down the
throat and push this thing down that feeds – that’s feeding. Really very
interesting.

But you can keep a body alive for an awful long time under these
condition – you’ll find people who’ve had bodies in pawn for some ten
thousand years. They just go up and give this body just a little bit of
a tremble, of course, and it just comes completely to pieces. Well now,
as far as reality of this stuff is concerned, it has not generally been
accepted here on Earth that such things existed. But I notice that we
have what’s known as science fiction here on Earth. I notice we have
that. And noticing it many, many, many years ago, I thought, “This is a
good gag”, so I wrote a lot of it.

You wouldn’t dare write real science fiction – not real science
fiction. Nobody’s guts could take it, that’s all there is to that.

So you’re looking around for brutality and what’s mauling your
preclear around and why he’s in apathy and so forth – you better
readjust your sights again as to what it takes to aberrate a being. It
takes plenty! Takes a terrific magnitude of incident to do anything to a
thetan – up in the billion volt category.

All right. Now, as I say, this sounds science-fictiony. Well, don’t
let it sound science-fictiony to you, because the truth be told, it’s
not science fiction. In the first place, it’s not fiction, and it really
isn’t very closely resembling what you read and call science fiction.
Science fiction is just a very chimerical sort of a picture of it. Space
is wild. There aren’t any writers down here and there’s no audience down
here that could take real stuff about space. It’s wild! And …

Well, let me tell you a little story. This isn’t just a story. One of
the Fifth Invader Force, an officer, came down here to take a survey,
and this is very adventurous. And in order to take a decent survey of
the place – of course, you understand the Fifth Invader Force officer
carries a doll. They don’t carry bodies, they carry dolls. Their
identification is a doll. It’s a very little, flimsy, mechanical affair
that you can make talk and walk and so forth. They’re cute, they’re
about a meter tall, they’re very light. Therefore, you don’t need, you
see – you don’t use oxygen in saucers. And all of this stuff in science
fiction is just rococo. Boy, it’s rococo beyond rococo. It’s just simple
beyond simplicity. You have this little doll, and the thetan energy that
a fellow puts out is quite sufficient to monitor the control switchboard
in the back of the doll, that’s all. I mean, simple. And he tunes it up,
he’s got his wavelength tuned to it and so on and it’s – he can walk it
around and …

He has, at the same time – in installations, he has what you would
classify as human beings. I mean, there are people in bodies who are
doing work in various installations out through the system. Bodies
exist.

But I’m talking about officers, they’re a pretty high order of thetan.
So, here’s a doll. He’s monitoring this doll.

And he parked his doll and picked up one of the persons connected with
the ruling house of Hapsburg and went on a survey of the domain, and
took notes on it. And unfortunately, he didn’t have any foggy notion of
how violently this particular prince was hated. And this prince was
assassinated. And before this officer could disconnect and so forth, the
thetan charge which suddenly sprung up in the assassinated prince,
KABOOM!, was sufficient to overwhelm and overpower this officer
momentarily, and he went through the screen.

I’m telling you this because it’s an average story, not a spectacular
story, not because it’s different, but because it’s the same.

And he went through the screen, KABOOM! And he landed on an
installation – well, about a few hundred miles north of the equator
(what you would consider north, just trying to translate the words and
directions) on Mars. Boom! He went through. And the Martians “Oh, boy!
What have we got here? Ha Ha! Wonderful, Wonderful! A high volume
thetan! He must be a space officer from some place or other.”

So, they took a couple of standards, put them down at the foot of the
cell and so forth, because they have a good identification through a
body in pawn and so forth, and they decided they were going to use him
back here against Earth. He wouldn’t transport! So they just threw him
in the clink, you might say, and kept him there. Just kept him there and
kept him there an kept him there and kept him there.

And one fine day he took the body in pawn and threw it through the
guard screen and blew it up – was able to do this – and himself got free
on the back-concussion, you see, of this explosion, and went out.

He went back down to a station we’ll call “X” and said, “Where have I
been for the last twenty-seven years! Hmph!” Something of – on the
order, “You should ask!” And he wrote out a chit, and they got a couple
of cruisers and they put together a few commando forces and they took
that installation to pieces – but thoroughly to pieces. And they took
what Martians were in that installation and so forth, and put them in
cans. As far as anybody knows, they’re still up there. But blew this
thing practically off the face of the map. Most Martian stations are
much tougher than this to crack.

That’s an incident of the tiniest character in a person operating …
Now, I’m telling you that incident because it’s a fairly modern incident
in the last few hundred years.

You’ll find lots of incidents like this in your preclears, and lots of
background like this. And they can’t understand why their values are
this way, and why their values are that way. And they’re trying to fit
the most outrageous set of Earth values up against the values which they
have had for God knows how long, and they just won’t mesh. And this
assists in the oblivion that you find people in.

By the way, this is a matter of small interest, within the next
century, that same officer had completed his survey back down here, and
is up on one of the space stations now.

But you see, you can’t be sure exactly what you’ve got your hands on.
And just because I have told you this story, and just because I’ve
mentioned such stories to you (as somebody with a body in pawn for ten
thousand years and being monitored and sent all over the place and that
sort of thing) is no reason why you should tell it to your preclear. But
it gives you a line on what to ask, just a slight lead of question.

You say, “Where did it happen?”

He could say Kentucky or Sussex, but he normally won’t. He’ll say
Mars, Venus, or he’ll give you some planetary name you never heard of.

You’ve got to audit these ridges through to get rid of these ridges if
you’re going to treat the body. But you understand that when we’re
working with this sort of thing, we are, to a large degree, treating the
body. And this is a question of who the hell cares! You’re treating a
body. Bodies are a nickel a million. If you only knew it, any one of you
here, any one of you, could pick himself up the line and go out and pick
up any body you see go by. This person is going to die someday; pull him
out, pat him on the head and say, “Tsk, Mars” – whhit! They go.

I mean, it sounds very horrible to you, doesn’t it! It sounds like a
terrible violation of private rights. That’s because you’ve decided upon
a much higher level of action. And yet, what do you know! It happens
every once in a while. It happens. You could do this.

Now, if you are out of your body and stable, and if your preclear is
out of his body and stable, the point I’m trying to make is that you
have escaped from and stepped sideways from the liability of sudden body
shock. If you have done this, all by itself, so that the body can be
hurt and so on regardless of the state of knowingness, regardless of the
ability to put out energy, regardless of any other of these abilities –
you have achieved a knowing immortality for your preclear, or for
yourself. You have stepped, actually, out of the line of stimulus-
response and being the victim on all of this sort of thing, and of
course it makes a tremendous difference to a person. You’d never realize
how widely one’s values change on such a thing. Because it just doesn’t
matter how many bodies would kick the bucket. It doesn’t matter, you
would come up shining on the matter.

You want to perfect that skill, because it’s the only thing that ever
got you in trouble. See, you were unable to stay outside of bodies when
they were given a sudden shock or when they were hurt. So get up through
the command range on a body; don’t stay down along the other level, and
actually, what you’ve bought is an immortality.

So your body gets knocked off, so what? Very few people have a
viewpoint, even when they’ve been out of their bodies, developed up to
the level that it should be. I’m going to give you today some very vital
data on this because I’ve seen that there are two or three points which
have not been clearly grasped. And in view of that, why, let’s get the
data to clearly grasp them,

Now, I don’t care – you can say I’m telling you fairy tales about this
sort of thing or something; we won’t worry about the credulity or
incredulity of the data. Don’t force this data on your preclear! Because
if you force it on your preclear, you’ll throw something into violent
restimulation that you’ll be sorry for.

But if you find your preclear is having an awful time over something
or other in some zone of his body, let’s say, some entity is stuck on
the time track in that zone and it might be one of the reasons why he
can’t get out of his body. And if you’re going in for the business of
cleaning up bodies, you’ve got to be able to resolve the problem of
entities.

And you resolve the problem of entity by finding out where this entity
is located in the body and then finding out where it’s stuck on the time
track, and you will find a death or a transplant or something of the
sort occurring at that point. You ask the thetan, the individual, to
sort of move into that area and move through that incident and bring
that entity up to present time.

Now, he has a tendency to give the entities complete credit for
beingness, and the entities don’t have beingness; they react to passing
energy. The energy goes out from the individual through the entity, and
the energy comes out from the environment and goes to the individual and
passes through the entity. So the environment can restimulate the
entity, the preclear can restimulate this entity, you see? And your
preclear looks at this and wonders why in the name of common sense he
acts that way.

It’s because when he puts out energy in that direction, that entity,
stimulus-response-wise, that ridge goes into effect. And he has no
accounting for the fact, because he didn’t put anything into effect. And
when somebody scolds him suddenly or something of the sort, he’s
perfectly willing to bite their head off, but instead of that he feels
scared to death. Why? This is unaccountable.

So he begins to believe there’s something wrong with him. And the
truth of the matter is there isn’t anything wrong with him. That’s the
truth. The only thing you could say would be wrong with him is he’s –
has a lot of ridges around him which have facsimiles on them. And these
ridges can be thrown into restimulation, and then he stands there and
watches this. So, you see, it’s a mystery to him. So he begins to think
after a while, “I must be nuts!” No. He’s saying, “Yeah, I’ve got some
…”

There isn’t any such thing as a sane entity because there’s no such
thing as a sane stimulus-response activity. But don’t think your entity
can’t think. It can think. It has a certain low order of beingness, not
alive – it’s running on the thetan’s energy, you see. But because of
associative nature of energy and other things, it can think, it can act.
You can talk to an entity and have it talk back to you and so on.

You can throw the attention of the thetan around the body so as to
restimulate the entities, one after the other. But you do this like
this:

Now you say “All right, now this right outboard entity, now I’m
talking to this right outboard entity, so-and-so and so-and-so and so-
and-so and so-and-so.”

And this preclear will say, “It says so-and-so and so-and-so.” And you
could say, “Do you like ice cream!” And he says, “No, it says it doesn’t
like ice cream.”

What you’ve done, you see, is take the thetan’s energy beam and you’ve
thrown it out here onto this ridge, because you said the right outside,
didn’t you! So that’s direct stimulus-response. It’s just a ridge and
there it sits, and you throw the thetan’s energy at it and your energy
is going at it; don’t omit that point! You’re restimulating it, you’ve
got a beam on it and he’s got a beam on it, and so of course it’ll talk.
Cute, very, very humorous mechanism, actually, but people seldom feel
like laughing, because they can make a man feel like he’s being torn to
bits. You talk about fear, and you talk about agony and being pinned
down and all the rest of this, this is on these darn ridges.

Now, you’re looking at – what I’ve been describing here – you’re
looking at the reactive mind. You’re not just looking at something
that’s vaguely like the reactive mind of the first book; you’re looking
at the reactive mind. The first book could be said to be a description
of ridges and the behavior of ridges.

If you want to know a lot more about how outrageously ridges can
behave and so forth, just read about the reactive mind in Book One, and
that is actually the ridge. That’s the ridge’s behavior.

So the reactive mind has geographical locations in the body, is found
to be energy ridges on which facsimiles have been affixed. And the
stimulus-response character of them causes very, very aberrated
behavior.

They have an associative quality; that is to say, they’re this absurd
logic that’s “one thing mirror another thing” and so forth. But they’re
down closer to an identity, A=A=A=A, than they are to thinking, really.
And that’s the way you tell what this thing is: it’s reasoning on a
A=A=A=A. You can actually ask an entity certain questions and it will
give you identity responses.

Korzybski. Korzybski, in his tremendous piece of work there, was
trying madly to differentiate over, above, around, under, alongside of –
and for God’s sakes, let’s do something about – this A=A=A=A of an
electronic ridge to which facsimiles are affixed.

Now, you want to know routes out of this trouble, how you get away
from this trouble, he points out a route. His route, however…

Although Hayakawag and some of the boys in general semantics believe
there’s a therapy involved in it, there isn’t. You can train and train
and train and train and train, when you’re training into
differentiation, and all you’re doing is training in a secondary circuit
response.

The fellow starts to identify, and then he gets very carerful and
differentiates. Well now, he’s got a circuit set up that differentiates
what he started to identify.

And of course, all you’re doing, really, is giving a lot of credit to
some ridge. You’re giving the ridge credit of beingness, and the guy
will get worse, he won’t get better. So watch crediting ridges! That’s
true, isn’t it!

Female Voice: Yes.

You’ve watched that happen.

Female uoice: Preclear got worse when you audited ridges.

That’s right.

So, if you must be concerned with the body – The thetan, when he moves
out, will generally leave the bulk of these ridges in the body. If he
moves out knowingly, he just leaves these ridges, and these ridges are
sitting in the body and so on. But he has built them up and he’s carried
them around and he’s pulled them in and he’s done these various things
with them; he’s finally fixed this body with a great many ridges.

But these ridges have a very strict pattern, they have a very strict
behavior, and this outrageous story I have been telling you about space
stations and all that sort of thing is very muchly responsible for the
state and action – the weird, insane character – of these darn ridges
today.

Now, you’re going to find preclears once in a while who will start
giving you messages. Of course, they’re on a communication line, why
shouldn’t they give you messages!

Some guard has been walking past some cell where there’s a body in
pawn, and all of a sudden this body stirs. Bodies are not supposed to do
that. So he says, “Oh-oh, somebody just died.” But then it doesn’t stir
the way a body stirs when it just died. He’ll say, “Ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah,
somebody is monkeying around.” Probably a few years ago they said, “Oh,
some damn hypnotist. Nobody will believe him anyway.” They didn’t do too
much about it. But that’s not been the case here in the last year or so.
They’ve been fascinated!

And they’re just about as helpless as babies in diapers, because
they’ve got a holding operation. They’re guilty of tremendous overt acts
themselves; they have no method of attack; they have been influencing
via the mind for so long that they’ve actually lost their initiative to
do anything else.

And if anybody was going to do anything to Earth on a violent side, or
anybody was going to do anything to people on a violent side, it would
be somebody like the Fifth Force. But the Fifth Force has completely
opposite interest in Earth; it does not want to do anything to Earth.

If anything is protecting Earth at this time, it’s the Fifth Force
people. But isn’t it strange that you will find the Fifth Force people
occasionally have a body in pawn here! You’ll find an occasional body in
pawn from the Fifth Force. And when you do, when you do, it’ll be a
different proposition, because it’s monitored by consent; the guy is
here with a comm line set up. And he’s almost in a state of knowingness
concerning exactly where he came from and what he’s doing. It’s a
different proposition entirely.

You have the difference between a young, ambitious race, you might
say, and an old, decayed, caved-in race, and the two just don’t mesh.
They don’t fight on the same battleground or anything. So there’s no
active concept involved here of battle or action beyond this insidious
action through the mind.

We all of a sudden find Russia and the United States going to War.
Why? Silly, huh!

Everything would militate in favor of peace, and yet the most insane
things will suddenly happen.

Some joker in the US will sudden!v order all the ships into port at
Pearl Harbor. Suddenly, inexplicably. And then fix it up so that none of
the messages to warn Pearl Harbor get there. Insists on putting them all
in top-secret code.

Here, are telephones lying all over the place. Pick up the telephone
and say, “Hey, we just got word there were a couple of Japanese aircraft
carriers standing right off Pearl Harbor, and I know we told you all to
go into port there in the last three days and secure for an admiral’s
inspection, and take all the ammunition out of your magazine and put it
below with the ready boxes and that sort of thing. But, you know,
there’s a little danger here of a fight starting and just a few hours
ago you sunk a Japanese submarine right outside the harbor, and how
about snapping and popping and getting on the ball there. And you
probably ought to be able to put the ammunition back in the ready boxes,
and maybe a few of those ships get out of port just in case, just in
case.

Oh, no. No, no. Ha-ha. No. We’ll go and find the admirals and the
generals, and we’ll find they’re all at parties. So we’ll have a
conference with them tomorrow, and then tomorrow, tomorrow we’ll put it
all in code that takes about two hours to encode, and then it’ll have to
be two hours to decode, and we’ll get that word of warning to Pearl
Harbor at 10:00 A.M. Pearl Harbor time Sunday.

Mm-hm, how do things like this happen! The men that did those, if
stood up and asked bluntly where their loyalty and what their actions
were and intentions, you would find out that they were completely
sincere in their jobs, just completely sincere. I mean, they intended to
do the very best they could for people and nations and everything else.
But all of a sudden, from some quarter, in sails one of these wild ones,
one of these terrifically wild tidbits of business that you just say
“Huh, can’t exist!”

Well, the human race will shadowbox with this for a long time if it
remains the human race. It’ll keep on doing this. So don’t expect that
your preclear will be able to explain completely some of his actions
during his lifetime – little actions. It’s wonderful what small minds
can think of as worthy goals – very small minds.

As far as the Martian operation is concerned – ha! I mean, let’s all
go out and play hopscotch – something real serious. A bunch of old, fat
boobs sitting around in the dirt, playing big, important games.

But they’re playing an important game which runs an insidious line,
and a therapist all of a sudden encounters – because he’s trying to make
somebody sane – he finds as long (and you will find as long) as you
dodge away from this and say, “it doesn’t exist” and that sort of thing,
that you’re going to find a certain number of cases that you aren’t
going to be able to do anything for. That’s just inevitable.

Now, if you want to do something for those extra cases, those
additional cases, why, just remember some of this data which you had in
the course books and remember some of the data I’m giving you now and
you might say to yourself, “Oh no, my God, not that!” and solve the
case.

Well, I didn’t mean to talk very long-windedly on that subject. I’m
sorry, it happens to be something in which I’m interested – as curiosa,
of course, strictly – and it’s something, if you’ve got good sense, you
won’t talk about much out in public.

Female uoice: We’ve really lost nearly all our friends anyway!
(audience laughter)

Oh yes, you have, huh? That’s all right. Our real refuge, as far as
friends and communication is concerned, is really us. I mean, our refuge
is us!

Now – oh, by the way, a lot of speculation goes around. Every once in
a blue moon, I’11 pull some kind of a gag off; I pulled one a little
while ago. I didn’t pull it intentionally.

I say, “Yes, I knew her commanding officer.” That happens to be true,
but it doesn’t mean that I have – let me make my position very clear –
that I have any ax to grind” with regard to this. I don’t have. I’m not
part of this fight.

It’s just something that you take a look at and you say, “Oh, no!” And
then you get interested, and you get rather partisan about the thing as
far as your sentiments are concerned. But it’s the partisan of watching
a bright, new operation and watching an old, dead operation, and
watching an awful lot of beings being terribly unhappy and awfully
mucked up and all fouled up like fire drill. For what reason! It’s a
weird, beautiful reason: So that a planet which could get along very
nicely is just running off the rails all the time. I mean, nobody can
get anything going on this planet, 1 mean, not – nobody’s supposed to
get together, and so on.

What benefit is it to anybody! The funny part of it is, it has no
benefit! It is in the line of a terrible habit, as far as the Fourth
Invader Force is concerned.

Now, as you go around, you will find there’s machinery stuck out here,
a lot of it. Just chase your pc around in various directions and the
next thing you know, he’s going to say, “There’s lines going here and
there’s lines going there, and there’s a big machine sitting over here
and there’s other machines sitting there, and there’s…” and so on.
Well, don’t let him monkey with them too much. Those are Fourth Invader
Force machines.

This whole area of this end of the galaxy is booby-trapped. And those
machines are bearcats, some of them, to turn off. And although they may
look like they’re very easy to turn off, it’s something like “the
picture.” The Germans used to use this as a booby trap. They’d put a
picture slightly askew over a fireplace or something in a bombed cottage
or something, you see! And your own troops would come in, and somebody
couldn’t resist straightening up the picture! And of course it was
trapped, and it would blow up and blow everybody up in the room. They
had to straighten up the picture.

Now, actually, you have no great interest in these machines, because
they can’t do very much one way or the other. And the truth of the
matter was, if you were to hand a map to the Fifth Invader of some of
these machines that you’d found, and that sort of thing, he’d be only
too happy to send a cruiser, something of the sort, and blow them off
the map. But it’d take a few mega-mega-megavolts to do very much to
these machines.

Now, you’ll find occasionally a sickness will set in on a preclear a
very short time after he’s been on one of these excursions. That’s
because he’s hit an antipathetic wave which is rigged to be a nice wave.

So don’t let your preclear sit around and listen to beautiful music,
or something of the sort. That’s a theta trap. Don’t let him go around –
he says, “Oh, you know, there’s the most gorgeous looking temple or
something! I keep going over there and looking at this beautiful temple,
and…”

And you say, “Wait a minute, What’s it look like!”

“Oh, it’s just gorgeous! The most beautiful architecture.”

You say, “Come home now,” And he … “Well, I – let me, let me …”

“No, come home now.” Because all of a sudden your preclear is going to
be in, appetite over tin cup,” into a theta trap.

Theta traps are trapped ordinarily with aesthetics. The other type of
trap is a mechanical trap which has a matching wavelength in its
construction. It’s a post or something, and the thetan throws a beam –
he’s just passing through the area and all of a sudden something echos
at his wavelength. And the next thing you know, he thinks somebody he
knows is over there and he goes over to look. And then the second he
tries to get off of it, the more energy he puts out, the more active the
trap becomes. There’s no energy in the trap but the energy the thetan
himself is putting into it. And he’ll stay on these things for God knows
how long. Those are types of traps.

As far as a thetan being very badly implanted is concerned, how can
you implant an energy unit! That’s an interesting question: How can you
implant an energy unit! It’s a question in which you should be awfully
interested. Because you can’t! You can give it some ridges, but it can
always move out from amongst these ridges.

You have to get it to agree and change its mind about something. And
once it’s agreed on something of the sort, why then it’s possible for it
to be in a state which keeps on holding on to ridges.

So the most important thing you can do with a thetan is Postulate
Processing, not ridge-throwing-around and the rest of it. I’ve said this
before and I wish to point it up and punch it up now: postulates!
postulates!

You can take any preclear you know and take – run from bottom to top
of a scale (that scale I gave you many weeks ago) just to change one’s
postulates. And if you keep this up, you just keep this up, you go on
this way, he’ll get better and better and better and better and better.

But we have, in all of these wild pitches, a terrific amount of
coversion. It’s very covert, all of this overtness toward beings. It
hasto be, because you cannot actually aberrate permanently an energy
unit. You cannot kill it. All you can get it to do is change its mind –
that is to say, alter its postulates, its concept of beingness.

You can get it to alter its concept of beingness, really. And if you
can get it to alter its concept of beingness, then it’ll keep on holding
these silly ridges all around itself with facsimiles on them. And the
ridges keep going into stimulus-response. And because your thetan did
not know the mechanism – he actually lacked knowledge of it – he
couldn’t beat it. He couldn’t beat this game, so he’d stay at a low
level.

Now, possessing knowledge of this is not really the same thing as
being a Theta Clear. I wish to impress that upon you.

Let me give you the example of my boy Nibs, L Ron Hubbard junior.
Interesting thing. He’s a rather nice kid. Rather standard hot rod
American kid. Perfect sense of irresponsibility. A nice kid. His friends
all liked him. That’s what you judge a kid by. He got along well with
people and that sort of thing.

But he had practically no goals. Nothing to look forward to or
anything. Standard young American today being picked up by the draft and
shoved here and shoved there.

Alright. He had 7 hours total processing up to stable outside of his
body and so forth. That was in the course of about 36 hours. He
completely change his attitudes, personality, and so forth. He got a
terrific sense of responsibility. He was reaching back and picking up
pieces of knowledge of this sort and that sort and fitting them together
and getting himself an education off the track.

He was going around trying to help other guys out. He was doing this
and doing that. He was a guy you really would care to know all of a
sudden, not just this kid. Fantastic change.

He went along for a little while. And he thought he was very savy now.
He was perfectly satisfied that he had reached a state of knowingness
where he could cope with things.

I (looked?) upon him not too long ago and boy that boy had been having
to burn the midnight oil and the morning oil and the afternoon oil in
trying to catch up with the knowledge of book one (DMSMH), the course
books, Science of Survival, Self Analysis, and so forth just so he
could live.

You get the idea. Just so he could stay up in state.”

This knowledge is vital; it’s an education which one has to have to
remain this wise, see, because if you don’t know about this, and you
don’t know about that, and don’t know about something or other…

It was NOT KNOWING about this and about that and about something or
other that made it possible for any of you to be tricked into something
in the first place. See, it’s just not knowing this data, which is
fascinating to you. You should say, “Yes, if you get a guy up to a high
state of knowingness, he should know all of this.”

I refer you to Science of Survival, the theory of enturbulation of
theta with MEST and then its disenturbulation again. That is data of the
MEST universe which is being gained. Your potentiality of knowingness
goes way high, but this does not mean that data goes that high.

To remain stable … Nibs is doing a terrific job right now.

By the way, he is just starting in to teach a theta clearing course in
Phoenix as of today and he’s using the tapes which you heard and stuff
I’ve written him in letters and so forth.

And everybody was having a very hard time with it in the states one
way or the other and they’re making it the hard way. And he was very
interested in getting the show on the road.

He wanted to come over here very desperately, very badly. And he was
all booked and he had his boat passage and his passport. And then time
was running short and he was going to pick up an airplane and come over
here and he was going to do anything.

And he finally phoned me up on the telephone and he says “Aren’t you
going to let me come over there”. And I kept telling him that the
operation in Phoenix was in very very great need of his services. And he
finally buckeled down and he’s running that operation. He’s eighteen.

And of all the guys anywhere in that vicinity, there’s just two people
that I would trust a great deal. One of them is old Alphia Heart who is
the hardest boiled soft-hearted character you ever saw (laughter). A
great guy. And the other one’s Nibs. Just fantastic.

You don’t know American youth. but you know how irresponsible some
British youth is. Just as a strata of (ir)responsibility. Well now, if
you multiply it by about a hundred, you’ve got American youth today.

And all of a sudden we’ve got a man. a very responsible man. Quite
interesting.

By the way, his attitude toward me is very very interesting. It might
be an interesting little datum you might like to know about. He used to
look on me rather resentfully and so on because, you see, during the
years he was growing up and so on, I was off to the wars and off on
expiditions and here and there and I wasn’t home and his home life blew
up pretty much and so on. So he …

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